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The Basic don’t come Bet Method uses flat bets with no added odds, except on the don’t pass when you are making a don’t come bet.

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  1. But 1996 ushered in a new era in craps method of dice controlthe PARR dice control strategy. The Patterson Rhythm Roll or PARR was developed by Chris Pawlicki and Ferry Patterson. It's been one of the most effective dice control every devised for craps.
  2. This is supposed to ensure the roll is random but many crapshooters try to control the outcome and change the odds. The subject of controlled throws on casino Craps tables is a hot topic. It's sometimes called rhythm rolling and dice setting because players are said to develop a rhythm of holding and throwing the dice in a set way. If anyone could.

Honest Cheating: Rhythmic or Controlled Rolling. Although controlled shooting (described previously in Strategies the Winners Use) is not necessarily cheating, casinos don't like it. They expect the dice to shake freely in the shooter's hand to ensure a random roll. It's not unheard of for rhythmic rollers to be banished from casinos.

Here’s how it works. You put $5 on the don’t pass line, and the point is 6. You lay $5 on the odds and place $5 in the don’t come box. If the next roll is a 7, you would lose the $5 don’t come, but win $10 on the don’t pass. A profit of $5. The next roll is 10. You now have $5 plus $5 odds on the don’t pass and $5 on the don’t come 10. You would now remove the odds bet on the don’t pass.

By adding the odds bet to the don’t pass when making a don’t come bet, you are insuring a win if a 7 is thrown, instead of just breaking even.

Reprinted from an article in Chance magazine, with permission from the author, Larry Edell. Visit his site at The Craps Shooter to learn more.

A basic 'rule' of craps is that both dicemust hit the back wall ..... However, there is no such law or regulation inNevada similar to the one in Indiana - below is a page from the regulations forIndiana:
Authority: IC 4-33-4-1; IC 4-33-4-2; IC 4-33-4-3
Affected: IC 4-33
Sec. 4. (a) The shooter shall throw the two (2) selected dice to the far end ofthe table for the purpose of bouncing the dice off the backboard of the crapstable. The shooter must make a good faith attempt to bounce the dice off thebackboard of the craps table.
(b) A roll of the dice shall be deemed invalid if one (1) of the followingoccurs:

(1) One (1) or both of the dice go off of the craps table.(2) If more than two (2) dice are thrown.

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(c) The stickperson may declare the following rolls invalid:Machine

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(1) If one (1) of the die comes to rest on top of the other die.
(2) If a patron other than the shooter throws the dice.
(3) If the dice do not leave the shooter's hand simultaneously.
(4) If one (1) or both dice come to rest in the dice bowl.
(5) If one (1) or both dice come to rest on the rail of the craps table.
(6) If the shooter has not placed a pass bet or don't pass bet.
(7) If the shooter throws the dice in the wrong direction on the craps table.
(8.) If the shooter slides the dice across the table so that one (1) or both ofthe dice do not roll or tumble.

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(9) If one (1) or both dice do not fall flat on the craps table, but rest onthe chips or tokens stacked on the craps table.
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(10) If the shooter does not make a good faith attempt to bounce the dice offthe backboard and the dice are not thrown at least one-half (½) the length ofthe craps table.
(11) If the dice come to rest in a manner that it cannot be determined whichface of the die is uppermost.The stickperson's declaration of an invalid roll may be overturned inaccordance with section 5 of this rule.
(Indiana Gaming Commission; 68 IAC 10-4-4; filed Oct 30, 1997, 12:40 p.m.: 21IR 924; errata filed Feb 6, 1998)

Is it true there is no written law about hitting the back wall in Tunica orVegas ?? .... Is it just a casino specific industry standard ??
The former Chief of Enforcement of the Nevada Gaming Control Board, KeithCopher dances around this unwritten rule of hitting the back wall as if it islike the Wizard of Oz (really no Wizard - just a little man behind thecurtain):
...Casinos, can and do, set their own 'rules ofplay.' Casinos can decide not to allow dice setting or controlledshooting, just as they can block 'card counters' from playingblackjack.
Card Counting is not illegal in Nevada and other states. In fact, variouscourts have upheld the legality of players using their skill (card counting) towin the game of blackjack. But the casinos, being private businesses, are notobligated to allow card counters to play in their establishments.
And so it is with dice controllers or 'dice mechanics,' as some arecalled. While setting and controlled shooting is legal the casinos do not haveto let you play or shoot. They can say, 'throw the dice our way ortake the highway.'
Casinos can also enforce the 'back wall' rule differently. Allcasinos maintain that for a dice throw to be legal that both dice must hit theback wall; but this rule can be enforced and interpreted differently.
Some casinos will allow a throw when both dice end up short of the back wall byseveral inches or even a foot or two feet. But some casinos might call 'noroll' when both dice fail to reach and hit the back wall.
I know of some casinos who maintain that the dice not only must reach the backwall but must bounce off of the backwall by at least several inches.
I've also heard of casinos who will declare 'no roll' when the dicedo not hit the back wall and a 'winning number' shows, but will letthe 'short roll' count if a 'seven out' or losing numbershows.
I do not agree with every thing he states above, but that is his 'expert' opinion.
... Q: 'Does the Gaming Commission then consider'dice setting' to fall under the definition of 'cheating'?
A: 'No, as long as the dice fly in the air, bounce on the table, and hitthe back wall. In some cases the casinos are lenient about the dice nothitting the back wall, and these are still legal throws, no cheating.'

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I play in 2 Vegas casinos where they will call the dice no matter if you hitthe back wall or not - and they never give heat about hitting the back wall...... you see, if it were a law to hit the back wall, then these 2 highprofile Strip casinos would be allowing a game to be played that is not allowedby the Nevada Gaming Commission and if a person rolled a 7 on a short roll andthe casino took my bets off the table on this Seven-Out, then I would have avalid complaint with the casino and the Gaming Commission would have to followthe 'written rule' and make the short roll 7 a no roll and give me my$$$ back.